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[欢乐吐槽] 其实这个世界都是一样一样的吧

本帖最后由 tammy_qian 于 2014-4-7 09:43 编辑

这两天没事干,就在家里翻老片子看,当中有部片子叫《shooter》,中文译名叫生死狙击,里面的几段台词非常有意思,看了以后发觉其实世界是一样一样的吧,连三权中的司法的力量都被质疑了,灯塔国引以为傲的司法也没法惩戒这样的坏人,反派参议员还直接用“FXXX”的字符来嘲笑司法和追求正义的法官,虽然最后坏人们被男主突突突的给灭了,但是偶们都知道这个是不合法的,有趣的是在一个极其讲究法制的国家,最后的结局则是主角用不合法的手段结果了坏蛋。

不过很佩服能拍出这样的片子,还是证明了灯塔国要比天朝要明珠,至少他们没有光腚总局去河蟹这部片子,至少他们有这样的导演敢拍这样的片子,灯塔国的容忍度还是相当高的。

Michael Sandor: There is no head to cut off. It's a conglomerate. If one of them betrays the principles of the accrual of money and power, the others betray him. What it is is human weakness. You can't kill that with a gun.
  
  桑多:不要想着“擒贼先擒王”,这是一个利益共同体。如果其中一员背叛了权力与金钱的运行规则,其他人就会背叛他。你面对的是人性的阴暗面,用一把抢是杀不掉它的。

Sen. Meachum: where the Secretary of Defense  can go on TV and tell the American public, oh, that "This is about freedom! It's not about oil!"   And nobody questions him, because they don't want to hear the answer 。because it's a lie!

米切姆参议员: 当国防部长走到电视前对公众说,我们打(伊战)是为了自由,而不是石油。 没有人质疑他,因为他们不想听到答案。因为这本身就是个谎言。

Swagger: And what side are you on?
   斯瓦格:参议员,你算哪一边的?
  
  Sen. Meachum: There are no sides. There's no Sunnis and Shiites. There's no Democrats and Republicans. There's only haves and have-nots.
   米切姆参议员:无所谓那一边。无所谓逊尼派还是什叶派,也无所谓民主党还是共和党。这里只有富人和穷人

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内容lz美剧看得不多吧,一半的美剧里面反派都是那些担当呀
白骨红妆 发表于 2014-4-9 10:06


以前看了不少,比如lost,hero,prison break,Desperate Housewives等等,这两年工作太忙,看的很少,最近也就看过house of cards
内容lz美剧看得不多吧,一半的美剧里面反派都是那些担当呀
抱歉给lz歪楼了。
老百姓关心的是日常日子好不好过,可好刚看到一篇文,说中外城市生活成本,生活在这种城 ...
lilian69 发表于 2014-4-8 21:09


公平的说,国外的P民比国内的P民要好过,这是不可辩驳的事实,他们的goods很多比国内要便宜不止一点点,如果是基本生存,肯定是他们比天朝好,但是如果真算上服务的话,估计中国的排名要靠后了,因为他们的service charge很高,比如我去美国吃顿饭,不给18%~20%的小费不行,酒店门童拿个行李也要给小费,每天换打扫房间的还要给,  打个出租如果有行李,还要另外给小费,我姐姐住CA,她出国前什么都不会,现在剪头发,修车,修家电,修管道,除草都会,因为那里车子随便修修1000美刀就没了,连装修房子都自己动手,美国人欧洲人也都是这样自己动手,我一个比利时的同事就给我看过他自己装修的房子。。。。另外他们出门不开车不行,公车要不是要等半小时以上要不就是离你家至少2公里。所以关键还是取决于你所在的阶层和过什么样的日子,各有利弊
片子和现实始终有差距的,用片子的对比现实是对比不出真实情况的,反正我没出过国,我只发表国内看法:今天 ...
zhoujin 发表于 2014-4-8 10:58


在这个片子之前就看过啦,而且国外很多地方都去过啦,欧洲偶都去过不下4个国家啦,其实比起欧洲4猪,觉得偶的家乡上海还是真心不错的,去年去西班牙,和巴塞罗那的当地人聊,听他们说他们平均工资1000欧,按照当地的物价,工资还是蛮拙荆见肘的,而且失业率奇高,大学毕业出来一堆人找不工作,所以治安很差,小偷很多,而且是黑人,白人,阿拉伯人都是偷,一路上小心翼翼还碰到2次,在巴萨看病的经历就更无语了,以前写过,所以不多说了
抱歉给lz歪楼了。
老百姓关心的是日常日子好不好过,可好刚看到一篇文,说中外城市生活成本,生活在这种城市里的焦虑啊(这也是我为什么说国外可能平民好过一些的原因)
附文:
And the World's Most Expensive City Is...

Rising transport costs and pricey alcohol have earned Singapore the title of the world's most expensive city, according to a new survey.

The Economist Intelligence Unit's 'The Worldwide Cost of Living' survey also found that Tokyo, Japan's notoriously spendy capital, has fallen to sixth place from top spot in its ranking from last year.

Published every March to the public, the study tracks the prices of a basket of goods and services, such food, transport, utilities, alcohol, tobacco, private schools and domestic help as they were in September of the previous year. It then compares them across 131 cities around the world to form an index. The baseline of the index is New York, which has a score of 100. The survey doesn't take into account the price of real estate or income taxes, but it does factor in consumption taxes such as sales tax and levies on alcohol and tobacco.

While some question its utility, the EIU says its survey is intended for human resources managers, who use the findings to calculate how to compensate its managers and executives as they move from one city to another across the globe.

Singapore, which topped the rankings, earned a score of 130, meaning the cost of living there is 30% higher than in New York, which ranked 26th. The Southeast Asian city-state moved up five spots from last year's survey.

Persistent inflation, especially with regard to car ownership, was one major factor pushing Singapore to the top of the ranking, said Edward Bell, a Hong Kong-based economist at the EIU. Transport costs represent 20% of the overall basket of goods measured in the survey.

Alcohol was another factor propelling Singapore to the top, with a bottle of table wine there costing roughly $25, almost twice as much as it would cost in Tokyo (around $12.40).

Paris, with a score of 129, was ranked the world's second most-expensive city, while Oslo (128), Zurich (125) and Sydney (120) ranked third through fifth.

Tokyo had a score of 118, as did Caracas, Geneva and Melbourne. Copenhagen, the last city in the top 10, scored 117.

'You're seeing the impact of the new policies in Japan and their effect on the yen, ' said Mr. Bell. 'Tokyo was so consistent in being in the top 3, but to see it fall quite a bit is changing perceptions.' He added that 'it's feeling much easier on the wallet to spend time there, ' though the city is still 'not exactly cheap.'

According to the survey, other expensive cities in Asia-Pacific included Hong Kong (No. 13, with 113), Osaka (No. 14, with 112) and Seoul (No. 17, with 108).

Chinese cities are moving up in the rankings, a reflection of higher wages, rising inflation and the appreciation of the yuan, Mr. Bell said. Shanghai rose nine spots to rank No. 21 overall. Its score of 101 means it's now 1% more expensive than New York.

Shenzhen (No. 32, with a score of 96), Dalian (No. 42, with 92) and Beijing (No. 47, with 88) were the other top-ranking Chinese cities.

At the other end of the scale, the cheapest places to live continue to lie in South Asia. The survey concluded that the three least-expensive cities in the world are Mumbai (No. 131, with a score of 39), Karachi (No. 130, with 40) and New Delhi (No. 129, with 43).
脑洞开太大,不管别人说什么,都能拐到自己那点熟悉的见识上。
起码别人说什么得搞清楚吧。
还有发表自己观点,不指名道扯上别人会死啊。
你要开头就说我认为现在跟过去教育等等,谁会理你啊。
还说耽美文,耽美文我说的,还有这里,都是讨论个人观点就说人爱看渣贱文的蠢货(还有那些说什么不爱看就滚的),从哪里看出我说反对我的就是脑残。
自我代入到这种地步,得出这种结论的才是真……。
这还是自诩有素质的人呢。
学学什么是定义范畴,每次确定别人在说什么吧。而且一句话也可能有不同的角度跟解释,背后逻辑可能跟臆想的是不一样的。
当然这可能太强人所难了,有些人,根本分不清这是在说什么,中国现在教育扩招扩的,真是……
这个世界确实到处都一样。
昨天?那么久以前的事情,何必记得。明天?那么久以后的事情,何必去想。
片子和现实始终有差距的,用片子的对比现实是对比不出真实情况的,反正我没出过国,我只发表国内看法:今天的国内比昨天是否有进步?明天的是不是会比今天进步?答案是肯定的,我就肯定她!


每个国家的发展情况都不一样,我们现在都只跟发达国家比而不是跟第三世界比,其实就说明了我们目标很明确而且一般人的眼光也很高,也说明了我们一直在进步嘛。我们觉得别人好,希望自己国家也这么好,那是很好的,但抬高别人的同时也不用踩低自己,做为一个发展中国家,我们是有不足,但其实也做得不错了。我觉得现在不能发展得太快了,普通民众精神文明真的跟不上…………

咳咳,其实我本来只是来看神捕哒~~~忍不住就说了两句,忽略我吧。如果楼主想用片子全方位了解欧美,不妨也看看纸牌屋啥的。

人生如梦,一尊还酹江月。
回复 12# 紫衣女神捕


    头像帅~~~~~~~~
是你自己说通过科举学习下层向上层流通的渠道被堵塞了吧。你这意思难道不是说古代比现今,向上流通的渠道要好?
而我看到的是,现在通过高考通过创业,下层向上层流通的渠道比之前更广阔好吧。
自己看看自己原话,谁给你偷梁换柱了。

肉大那文人家在古代依据古代的刑法有什么不对,非要扯现代人权。
还没事什么地方都扯这些,还在耽美文里说反对你的是脑残粉。

老喜欢扯七扯八的是谁啊。
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几千年流传下来的制度,目的是为了社会阶层流动。随着社会进步,应该是逐渐完善的,但是现在,尤其是近些年 ...
lilian69 发表于 2014-4-8 06:19


天朝目前的问题的确很多,目前看来只能通过慢慢改革来实现了,太快的速度容易造成又一个Jun.4th.,国人的心都希望能改革,但是就怕这种心态被某些大国利用了,就像当年的前苏联,最后就被肢解了。
天朝的罪犯是靠贿赂相关人员脱罪,灯塔国么靠多掏钱请个好律师让罪犯脱罪,而且多出点保释金保释出来。当然欧美的确比天朝明珠,但是也别太相信欧美有多么明珠,真要游行华尔街了,警察也是警棍加辣椒水伺候,哪怕你只是站在华尔街挥舞旗子抗议几声。其实就像电影里说的,权利掌握在少数人手里,区别只是他们在有的国家站在台前,在有的国家坐在幕后
几千年流传下来的制度,目的是为了社会阶层流动。随着社会进步,应该是逐渐完善的,但是现在,尤其是近些年贫富差距扩大后,却逐渐堵塞。
是哪里提到说古代就好呢。
我分明是中外比较。
偷梁换柱。
就像说我们社会秉持理念应该是大家有基本公民权,定罪要量刑。
就有人tm抓住是在一篇有小三的文里说的,说老娘就是喜欢看贱女渣男文。
这就是政治..........
回复 7# tammy_qian


    对于我们下一代能达到我表示不可能
我女儿去年开始上幼儿园,书上说好东西要跟好朋友分享,所以在她只有一支棒棒糖的时候还给了朋友。后来我有天忘了给她书包装零食,她看到朋友在吃东西,向人家要,没人给她。。。。。。
再后来给她带的零食她只给最最亲的朋友了,其他来要吃的,一律不给了,以前是谁要她都给的

很多时候不是我们一家能够改变的,目前国内有素质的家长还不是很多的
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